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Poster: elbow1126 Date: Nov 17, 2008 3:10pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Beatles Carnival of Light (non-Dead)

I believe Michael Jackson owns the rights to all those songs. No chance that he could use some extra cash. He has never put himself into a situation where he might get sued.

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Nov 17, 2008 3:20pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Beatles Carnival of Light (non-Dead)

so bad....

http://williambader.com/mj.html

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Poster: Classic_TV_and_Radio_Fan Date: Nov 17, 2008 3:45pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Beatles Carnival of Light (non-Dead)

Song-writers earn money no matter who owns the publishing rights.

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Poster: elbow1126 Date: Nov 17, 2008 4:01pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Beatles Carnival of Light (non-Dead)

That's true. Given the nature of most of your posts, I am a bit surprised that you responded to my joke in such a serious fashion.

McCartney has been somewhat annoyed at Jackson about this stuff though. He thinks he should get a higher composer's share than Jackson is paying him and he is bothered that when he tours he has to pay Jackson to play Beatles songs. I also heard one interview where he was bothered that Jacko would not sell him the rights to the only song that he requested from the catalog (that Jackson owns, he doesn't own some earlier ones because they were not published by Northern Songs). The song McCartney requested was Yesterday.

This post was modified by elbow1126 on 2008-11-18 00:01:23

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Poster: Classic_TV_and_Radio_Fan Date: Nov 17, 2008 6:13pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Beatles Carnival of Light (non-Dead)

Ok then, I must admit that I can't tell the difference between jokes and non-jokes. I though House was a brilliant comedy until I was informed it's a drama.

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Poster: sydthecat2 Date: Nov 17, 2008 6:40pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Beatles Carnival of Light (non-Dead)

"The Beatles" should have payed Jackson's asking price back in the 90's. Someone balked. Probably Yoko, who is making enough money off the John Lennon artwork embossed dinner plate collection I suppose. Or maybe it was Paul who is making enough money off of his crappiest songs and Buddy Holly's music as well as "Autumn Leaves". Or George who thought it wasn't worth it. He'd rather garden. Or Ringo, who only wrote a few of the tunes anyway.

Anyway...

I do know that it seems people who change music once or twice take a lot of shit. And these guys have taken more shit than Miles Davis , who also did his share of dross too, despite changing jazz several times in his career.

And I wish I could just not let it get my dander up like it occasionally does.

But maybe that's why I've been staying away...

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Poster: veblen Date: Nov 19, 2008 9:04pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Beatles Carnival of Light (non-Dead)

I hadn't listened to the complete beatles catalog in sometime but last month I went through it all in the documetary done for radio in 81 called: The Days in Their Life.

A 30 lp collection that proceeds through all the albums, plus many non-released tunes, all christmas tunes, solo work, etc., etc.. I believe it has all emi/apple recordings. Plus it includes some of the the apple artists like: James Taylor, Mary Hopkins, Badfinger and of course, Billy Preston.

Each song is introduced with background on: the song's composition; who played what; and when/where/how it was recorded. Some really great info here. There are also comments by the band, martin, epstein and many associates.

It is very well done and it really makes you appreciate and respect the band following them from the beginning to the break-up, and then into their solo careers. It is just interesting to hear the progression of it all...

For some reason I am thinking of the scene from help where they all get out of a cab and go into what appears to be separate houses but it turns out to be on big living area. They make a big deal about saying goodnight and wind up in the same room together.

so what do you like better: let it be, or let it be naked?

gotta love the "fly on the wall" disk that comes with let it be naked...paul is one interesting cat...surprised they never punched him out...

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Poster: staggerleib Date: Nov 20, 2008 5:28am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Beatles Carnival of Light (non-Dead) - And Genesis

While I don't really have any idea what the Betty Sutton show was, I have to assume that's a veiled (or not so) insult to Let it Be Naked. I, for one, loved it. Sir George was a member of the beatles, he added so much production to the band that he essentially created a new sound for them. I think that he really had a handle on the sounds that they guys wanted to produce. But, for me it was simply marvelous to listen to the music the way it would have sounded without that studio magic.

Let it be naked remains one of my favorite Beatles albums.

Search out the Purple Chick Remasters. For example, the White Album consists of 12 CD's. There's so much additional material, not to mention remasters of the original stuff. So Very worthwhile...

While we're on the subject...

If you are like me, and love the early Genesis, with Peter Gabriel, you should get your hands on the new Boxed Set.
http://www.amazon.com/Genesis-Box-Set-1970-1975-Disc/dp/B001EO2UJK/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&;s=music&qid=1227188027&sr=8-1

These completely remastered masterpieces of Prog bring new life to old recordings. The things that you hear, that were only hinted at from the official releases open up the productions to something transcendent. Sublime.

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Poster: Morning Dewd Date: Nov 20, 2008 6:28am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Beatles Carnival of Light (non-Dead) - And Genesis

Is anyone familiar with, seen/heard of The Musical Box?
It seems they are like a DSO for Genesis.
Here's a vid:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpdDtUlbPQU

This is is their website:
http://www.themusicalbox.net/archives/

I've not seen them yet, but they will be touring the U.S. in January performing A Trick of the Tail.
It may be worth a look.

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Poster: sambonk2 Date: Nov 25, 2008 7:41am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Beatles Carnival of Light (non-Dead) - And Genesis

Musical Box are great..what they do is way more"technical"stuff.Old Genesis is not easy to play and these guys Nail it..I have a show with Collins on Drums for the "lamb" and he said it was very strange....is a good way!!

Dimeadozen had a few shows up a while back

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Poster: sydthecat2 Date: Nov 25, 2008 7:00am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Beatles Carnival of Light (non-Dead) - And Genesis

They are very good.

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Nov 25, 2008 7:25am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Beatles Carnival of Light (non-Dead) - And Genesis

never seen them live - but from what ive heard and vids ive seen - you are spot on!! very impressive recreation band

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Poster: sydthecat2 Date: Nov 25, 2008 7:00am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Beatles Carnival of Light (non-Dead)

I prefer the brightness of the mix on "I've Got a Feeling" on the original Let it Be. Naked has a dryer sound and may be a different take. The original is the rooftop performance. I also prefer the original Don't Let Me Down (b-side to Get Back---available on Past Masters Two) to the jumpier version on Naked. But I really like some of the other stuff. I always prefer Long and Winding Road without the strings and chorus although the one on Anthology 3 might be better...could be the same one only with a drier mix. I also prefer the Past masters version of Across the Universe to the one on Naked. And the one on Anthology Two as well. And I still kinda like the slowed down Spectorised version on the original Let it Be.

Well, that's my Beatles jabber for the month.

And George MArtin had nothing to do with the Let it Be album. He did produce the Get Back single but the album was produced by Phil Spector.

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Poster: Classic_TV_and_Radio_Fan Date: Nov 19, 2008 11:03pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Beatles Carnival of Light (non-Dead)

"Let it Be Naked" is to music what The Betty Hutton Show is to television.

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Poster: midnight sun Date: Nov 18, 2008 1:39pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Beatles Carnival of Light (non-Dead)

hey Syd

personally, i stay on the Silent Way side of Miles...if he did sell out (hard to tell with a badasscat like that) it doesn't take away anything from his previous contributions for me




caught a Montreal Jazz Fest feature of Wayne Shorter's acoustic quartet on KNOW the other week...

highly refined improv going far beyond the tangible w/o losing the form (how's that for artspeak?)

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Poster: sydthecat2 Date: Nov 19, 2008 8:39pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Beatles Carnival of Light (non-Dead)

Nice to hear from you Mr. Sun!

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Poster: whirlwind dreamer 65-95 Date: Nov 17, 2008 10:46pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Beatles Carnival of Light (non-Dead)

sgt. pepper. yellow submarine.fixing a hole!!!

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Poster: midnight sun Date: Nov 18, 2008 12:13pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Beatles Carnival of Light (non-Dead)

and an ill fated Blackbird...maybe they didn't respect the BEATles after all :)

JGB Dear Prudence more than makes up for it

This post was modified by midnight sun on 2008-11-18 20:13:09

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Nov 18, 2008 12:22pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Beatles Carnival of Light (non-Dead)

as does his nod to Eleanor Rigby...

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Nov 18, 2008 12:24pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Paul is Not Dead )non-Dead)

Been seeing good reviews of the same - nice to see Sir Paul continues to explore and evolve (looking forward to that free show in GG Park....)

http://www.jambase.com/Articles/15848/Paul-McCartney-Exclusive-Stream-Entire-Fireman-Album

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Poster: elbow1126 Date: Nov 17, 2008 9:25pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Beatles Carnival of Light (non-Dead)

I don't think they cared that much.

I agree with you that the Beatles take a bit of a beating around here and it is undeserved. It is hard to compare them to a group like the Grateful Dead since they basically gave up touring at the height of their popularity so all we have is the studio work. Given the number of songs that Dead/Jerry covered, it would seem that they respected the talents of the Beatles. I suspect they only paid more tributes to Dylan:

Hey Jude
Revolution
Day Tripper
Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds
Tomorrow Never Knows
I Want To Tell You
Get Back
Rain
Why Don't We Do It In The Road

I am sure i missed a few.

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Nov 17, 2008 4:09pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Beatles Carnival of Light (non-Dead)

"no michael, the song is mine".